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seized. >> without elaborating can you say are there pieces of the puzzle missing that will make this more difficult to tell? >> are there pieces, yes, missing, that we haven't had a chance to finish yet. the forensic part is an important part. that's not done yet. that's being worked on, but not done yet. the witnesses that need to be interviewed, there's an immense number of witnesses that need to be interviewed. that's not completed there. there are week's worth of work we have left in order to complete this. what i would like to do is say that we will come back in a couple hours. i apologize for having you out here in the inclement weather. we are also. but i want to get the information from the medical examiner's office and confirm that. i want to get -- see if i can get more detail relative to the presidential visit and what logistics of that will be this afternoon and any updates that i get from the major crime commanders of the department i will bring that back to you. >> can you say what federal crime is being broken by those
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posing on social media. >> federal authorities. i don't know. we'll be back in a couple hours. please stay dry. >> so there you have it. the connecticut state police spokesman lieutenant paul vance updating us. soledad, very interesting development. apparently all these false social media reports allegedly supposedly from this killer out there and the warning from this police chief, the warning is specific, warning being if you get engaged and circulate these false reports with threats out there, you are violating the law and they will go after you? >> yeah. he was tough on that. one of the things he said, while not specifically referencing any specific social media reports, he said that there is erroneous information coming out, all their information is on their official website and not to trust anything that was just being repeated or created on
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social media. highlighting, of course, that there had been contradictory information, just wrong information. very tough on that as you heard in that press conference, wolf? >> yeah. because some of these social media sites i've seen one or two of them over the past day or so, and they're making these accusations and these threats out there and scare something folks and these are totally obviously erroneous. the authorities are going to go after them. the other thing we heard is that they're really concerned about kids going back to school tomorrow and trying to figure out how best to do that? >> yeah. i think that's been a question that actually a lot of the parents here have had even right after this horrible tragedy happened on friday. i mean what do you do? the school is a crime scene and even when it's no longer a crime scene, you're going to have children who experienced and seen the very worst things, how could they possibly go back to their school. for those who survived.
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how could parents bring their children back to this school. i think there's some big questions they're going to have to answer in terms of logistics and what will they do. it's a similar question they had at columbine that they've had in the past. so i'm sure they'll be trying to figure out how others have done it as they move forward in dealing with yet another sort of angle on this tragedy that they have to confront here. >> yeah. i suspect, you know, just i suspect a lot of parents will say i'm going to keep my kid or kids home tomorrow, the next day, just out of an abundance of precaution if you will. you can't blame people for being nervous given the enormity of this tragedy. thanks very much. i know you're going to be back, i'm going to be back later but our coverage right now continues with "state of the union with candy crowley." >> good afternoon for this special edition of state of the union. i'm candy crowley. moments ago connecticut police
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wrapped up a news conference and they said there has been misinformation about the investigation including claims of quotes from the gunman. connecticut's governor told cnn the gunman got into the school by using his assault weapon to shoot his own entrance into the building. connecticut's medical examiner said the rifle found at the scene friday was the primary weapon in the massacre. president obama will be here in newtown in a few hours and meet with the victims' families and will speak at an interfaith vigil at 7:00 p.m. eastern. joining me now, two connecticut lawmakers richard bloomenle that and congressman and senator-elect chris murphy whose district includes newtown. let me start with the past couple days for you all. i know you have talked to some of these families who understandably don't want to be out in public except for when they choose to. we did see one father go out.
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can you tell us as silly as this may seem how are they holding up? what's sustaining them at this point? >> i don't think that one word or one sentence or one description will fit all of them. they are as diverse probably as they are human beings. i can tell you this community has demonstrated its strength and resilience and resolve in coming together. we were at church service this morning, which was so moving in its statement of grief but also coming together and bonding and staying strong. i don't think i will ever forget the cries of grief and pain that i saw at the firehouse on that day and as a parent, as a person just the unspeakable sadness that prevadss this town still and will go on for quite some
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time. >> and you said that you're soon to be senator elect, this is part of your district and people have asked me to describe it. i said if you ever had a train set that ran around your christmas tree, the village inside it would be newtown. it just is that kind of a village. you must know people here who must be deeply affected, the most directly affected and what are you taking from them and what do they need? >> you know, this is the quintessential idyllic new england community. small town, prides itself on its closeness. a labor day parade here that happens that the whole state comes to, the biggest in the area, every community group and school has a float, and the closeness of the town makes the grieving even worse. everyone knows one of the young little boys or girls that was killed or one of the adults. i frankly think it will be one of the things that lets this community heal. because there's a closeness,
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everyone is so tight knit you're seeing these acts of humanity spilling over in the last few days. that's going to continue after the lights leave. and the closeness of the community hurts but it's going to help us heal. >> it does. to have people who understand what you're going through because they're kind of going through the same thing even if they're not directly involved the parents of the children or relatives of the adults. we're looking at live pictures now of what's going on around newtown and, of course, there will be the vigil tonight with the president. when you look at this from the point of view of the congressman that represents the district or the senator who represents the state, do you feel a sense of helplessness like what can i do? because in effect, the one thing that would help, you can't do? >> the sense of helplessness is very real, but at the same time, i'm hearing from people here in newtown, particularly people in law enforcement, you know, i
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come to this issue and this place with a career in law enforcement 30 years as a federal prosecutor, united states attorney, as well as state attorney general for 20 years and my colleagues in law enforcement say to me you have to do something about assault weapons, high capacity magazines, both very instrumental in this crime and so there is a sense of helplessness but also a sense of mission that citizens on the streets, in the churches, are saying to me, we need to do something. it is a call to action. >> and do you feel that same call to action? because we've had a lot of these. i mean there was a young girl that died in tucson in the gabby giffords shooting, a lot of people that died, but a 9-year-old i think that died in that. we had a baby killed in the aurora theater. and this is sort of horrific beyond imagination because
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there's so many young people. we've heard this before. and there is -- you know, there are people saying wait a minute, can we not do anything just as a knee-jerk reaction, we need to think this through. >> the tipping point on these issues whether it's taking on assault weapons or providing more comprehensive mental health or addressing the sort of culture of violence that prompts somebody to do something like this, the tipping point should have happened a long time ago. if this is the tipping point, then we're going to go down to washington and prompt a conversation that's long overdue. you know, a young man grabbed us in his church we were in sobbing saying, don't let this happen again. i think our job here is to not set expectations too high, right. this is complicated. and so we can't solve it with legislation. there are certainly going to be lessons learned. >> isn't that in the end sort of balance you have to take, in that a person without a history, a criminal record or mental health record of any sort, that would suggest some kind of
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violent tendencies, can get guns. some of the strictest gun laws in the country are here in connecticut and these guns so far we know were purchased legally. there is a limit to what anybody can do to stop this sort of thing? >> we are never going to be able to take guns out of the hands of every deranged person, but we can do something. and i think there is renewed focus on this issue. i think that this incident, horrific and horrible as it is, almost unspeakable in its inhumanity and cruelty, will spur and transform the national discussion about it and perhaps lead to more action and at the very least, perhaps doing something about high-capacity magazines. >> and for our viewers those are the things you can attach to an adult weapon and they fire off 100 rounds in just minuscule amount of time. a lot of them jam as we saw in
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aurora, did not happen this time, that's what he used apparently was the high-capacity magazine. one of the things you think could be done is a ban or limitation of some sort on these high-capacity magazines. what about an assault weapons ban? >> listen, i think it's clear that nobody needs to have ammunition that dispenses 30 rounds in a number of seconds. it's also clear that nobody that has deep seated mental health issues should be in a waiting line to get services. and so i think for us, you know, right now our focus is on the victims and helping people grieve here. we don't even have the full police reports to understand what happened inside but once we do, i think there are going to be -- i hope some pretty easy policy lessons that can finally start to bring us together. >> and what about just briefly in the minute or so we have left, what about school security? in connecticut, is a relook under way? because in the end, a doorbell or a pass will -- somebody -- i
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mean that's just not going to work clearly. so what is the answer? is the answer to have policemen at the doors of elementary schools? is that going too far. would anything go too far if it would have stopped this? >> i think there will be a time for us, sitting in newtown in the midst of this grief and sadness, to be more specific about what we can do, what we should do as a nation. my colleagues are calling from all over the country literally to not only wish us well, but say, we need to do something and i think all of those specifics will await a time when maybe we can give it the sensible, thoughtfully, hopefully effective attention it deserves. >> just as a final question, do you hear that from people who formally thought -- formerly thought we don't need more laws, we need to enforce the ones we have? has there been a change of thought? >> i think it's too early. right here to be honest there are people coming up and saying make sure this doesn't happen again, but that's rare.
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most people right now are just simply trying to deal with the tragedy and so, you know, the families here i think want us to make sure they have everything they need. the community has everything we need. and we'll figure out where this community wants us to go from a policy stand-point in the coming days. >> senator-elect chris murphy, senator blumen thal, thank you for being here. not a part of public service you look forward to. when we return, a survivor of the aurora shooting on guns and grieving. to the best vacation spot on earth. (all) the gulf! it doesn't matter which of our great states folks visit. mississippi, alabama, louisiana or florida, they're gonna love it. shaul, your alabama hospitality is incredible. thanks, karen. love your mississippi outdoors. i vote for your florida beaches, dawn. bill, this louisiana seafood is delicious.
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those are live pictures from newtown, connecticut, in fact, this scene, the people have changed, but the scene has not. getting into this town, getting to the site of where so many vigils have been held, and it's a small town, the traffic into newtown has been amazing. there are more people here than are in the town, clearly they
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are coming from so many places to try to kind of find a central point where they literally can come to say i'm sorry, come to say i feel this disaster that it was to the people in the town. so it's a kind of scene you see everywhere and have seen continually, morning and early this morning when we drove in late last night and early this morning, cars backed up just trying to get into this town. so that is the scene now as we await, of course, this evening, the president will be here and you will see even larger crowds. right now, i want to introduce you to someone, steven barton. he just wanted to see the midnight premier of the new "batman" movie. what happened that night was worse than any horror on the screen. >> this past summer in a movie theater in colorado, i was shot. shot in the face and neck. but i was lucky. in the next four years, 48,000 americans won't be so lucky.
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because they'll be murdered with guns in the next president's term. enough to fill over 200 theaters. >> steven barton as you may have figured out is working for an anti-gun group, the group of mayors against illegal guns and joins me now. nice to see you again. >> nice to see you. >> we met earlier this year when you were in at cnn in washington. we've been talking about gun control, but i want to talk to you as someone who's been through this experience and we should tell our viewers you live ten minutes from here. >> that's right. >> so not only were you at the aurora theater, hitchhiking across the country. >> bicycling. >> but you live ten minutes from here. >> yes. >> so you must have had some real flashbacks. >> oh absolutely. and be even now i'm discovering personal connections to the elementary school, just people i know who either were working there, who knew people who have been killed, and it's -- i never
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would have thought in a thousand years that this community, this small community, right down the road from where i grew up would be affected by gun violence in this way. >> tell me what's helped you? >> honestly my family and my friends. you know, i had a strong support system, continue to have a strong support system surrounding me. they're really there to take care of you when things like this happen, frankly. >> and this was only in july, so it's not as though we're talking years ago. >> yeah. >> what do you -- do you still work on? what do you still struggle with? i ask because your experience, obviously, you know, people who might not have been -- the families of the killed, you survived. >> yes. >> obviously and so that, obviously, your parents know that you are here, but there are now parents and sisters and brothers and, you know, all of that struggling with this. so it might be helpful, what do
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you struggle with now and deal with that? >> i just struggle to sometimes, you know, just feel safe publicly. you know, at the movies or now i guess at school, i don't know. it's a slow process of healing that you have to go through and it's continuous and at least for me personally it's going to last for a long time. >> and so how old are you? >> i'm 22 -- 23. just turned 23. >> movie theaters, schools, seem like scary places? >> in some sense sometimes, yes. i'm slowly coming to terms with ha and working on that, but for a long time, i just didn't want to be near a movie theater. >> your work, i know you do the work with the mayor's group that wants to ban guns and work for some more gun control. >> yeah. >> do you sense that the time is now and didn't you sense that maybe after aurora as well? >> i certainly hope so after
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aurora, that the time is right for this conversation. but i mean now -- >> but it didn't happen then. i'm wondering if you think -- >> well, given the president's remarks, he's talked about this before after aurora, after tucson, we needed a meaningful conversation, but i think his emotions really revealed the extent to which this has affected him personally and right now, we need more than anything else, presidential leadership on this issue. so i can't believe that 20 children will have been killed in vain and no conversation will come out of this. it's just too horrifying, too shocking to not provoke some discussion. >> steven barton, thank you for coming by. >> thank you. >> appreciate seeing you again. >> up next, false reports about the newtown shooting cropping up on social media websites. ♪
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>> one thing that's becoming somewhat of a concern and that is misinformation being posted on social media sites. there has been misinformation coming from people posing as the shooter in this case, posing using other ids, mimicking this crime and crime scene, and crime activity that took place in this community. >> i want to bring in howard kurtz, he is host of cnn's "reliable sources." i mean, you know, it's a brave new world out there and i'm not sure how you control this part of it. this is social media, you can go anywhere, anonymously. you can cover your fingerprints as it were. what is the best way, do you think, to go about stopping this sort of thing or is there no way? >> you can't stop it because social media can be a force for
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good or evil. i was stunned, candy, to hear the lieutenant saying people were impersonating the shooter on facebook. i peen in this horrible situation that is just torn at the heartstrings of the country, it seems to me unspeakably cruel to do this kind of thing and yet, although the state police official said that somebody -- that people may be prosecuted for this, did a quick research and it's not so clear. you can be prosecuted for cyber stalking, defamation, making threats on-line, harassing people on-line or causing someone reasonable distress. i'm not sure what the motive would be or how you could frame any kind of indictment. >> the thing is, there's a lot of unspeakable cruelty that goes on on the web. we have cyber bullying, people saying nasty things about, you know, all kinds of circumstances that would require i think a more humane approach to it. and in the end is this one of those things where i see we could go with, i don't know,
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crying fire in a crowded theater, that there's some way the law could go with this? >> right. i suppose in egregious cases, law enforcement could find ways to prosecute people for using false identities. lots of people, for example, have twitter screen names that are not real. there's a challenge for consumers of this stuff and also a challenge for journalists who live on twitter these days, consult facebook, not to repeat this information either on-line or on the air, without double checking it because you can get in a lot of trouble taking it on faith. >> absolutely. and i imagine at some level this also interferes with the investigation if they're chasing down rabbit holes. howie kurtz, thank you so much. "reliable sources." we will see you again soon. to dana bash in washington, she has a check of tourtoday's head. >> a democratic source tells cnn the white house believes that john boehner, the speaker john boehner's first ever offer to increase tax rates on the
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wealthiest americans is, quote, insufficient. the white house does think it represents progress. friday boehner offered to raise tax rates starting with incomes of $1 million. cnn is also told in return, boehner asked for a significant spending cuts and some specifics like raising the eligibility age for medicare. the state department is expected to receive a highly anticipated report tomorrow from an independent adviser review board which has been investigating what went wrong in september's deadly attack in benghazi. congress will receive the report at a closed hearing on wednesday. the state department is also expected to present recommendations on improving security at u.s. embassies. secretary of state hillary clinton will not testify at this week's congressional hearings about that benghazi report as originally planned. that's because she is recovering from a concussion. clinton sustained the injury after she fainted during a bout with a stomach flu. she's moner toed by doctors who recommended she take the week
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off. president obama appears ready to nominate senator john kerry as hillary clinton's successor. a democrat who spoke with cnn tells us that kerry announcement could come as early as this week. kerry is the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee. many of his senate colleagues on both sides of the aisle have expressed support for him and he's likely to easily win confirmation as secretary of state. back to candy crowley in newtown. candy? >> thanks, dana. coming up, 20 years ago, she learned firsthand about gun violence. >> i came into congress because a tragedy had happened to my family and to others on the railroad, and when my son was learning how to talk again, you know, he asked me how this could happen. i didn't have the answer. and that's when i started to look into the gun violence in this country.
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since the massacre at virginia tech in 2007, there have been 19 of what the fbi classifies as mass shootings in the united states. what there hasn't been is what president obama is now calling for, meaningful change in the gun laws. joining me now is new york congresswoman carolyn mccarthy. congresswoman mccarthy, thank you so much. i must say when i listened to the president on friday, i believe it was, i didn't hear him talk about new laws. i heard him talk about meaningfully change. do you think, have you talked to the president, and do you think he will now push what you're wanting to do, vis-a-vis gun laws? >> well, to be very honest with you, i know that the president could be talking from the bully pulpit. certainly we can hopefully work together on passing some legislation that is certainly been introduced every year.
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but what the president can do is an executive order to tighten up some of the laws that are still already out there. "the new york times" released a report yesterday and this morning that basically was talking about a bill that was passed in 2008, right after virginia tech, that was a bill that i got passed through the house, through the senate, and president bush signed that, but the problem with that is that there has never been enough money there to have all the courts -- anybody that's been adjudicated through the courts whether for any crime that would already basically not allow someone to own a gun, to be put into the instant background system. that's something he can do. the heavy lifting is going to have to come from congress and it will, but if he is willing to use the bully pulpit, he can
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actually help us. president clinton did that. it was a tough struggle but he got it through. for some reason, and i personally feel because it was so many children involved, the attitudes of the american people are little bit different than they were before friday. >> so, by it, i believe you mean an assault weapons ban, is that what you're talking about, the president would get behind that, which expired probably more than ten years ago? >> yeah. that expired in the year 2004. i know senator feinstein has been working on a new assault weapons bill. she's been working on it for a while. >> right. >> with the intention of most likely introducing it over the first of the year when we go into a new session. and we're going to be working with her on that. but the 208 bill that was passed, is the nic improvement
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act. that goes to the courts because we found when people were adjudicated to be mentally ill, and that happened with the virginia tech shooting, that the records never went into the instant background check. it would cover anyone domestic violence, felonies, he could do something big on that right away. and then like i said, we would have to work together. >> right. and as -- in fact, senator feinstein said this morning she would introduce an assault weapons ban bill and try to cut down on some of the large capacity magazines that can shoot 30, 40, 100 rounds of ammunition in 30 seconds or something, but let me go back, because you're right, the virginia tech shooter did, in fact, have a mental health history that had he been be in the records, it might have halted him from getting the guns, but there have been other cases -- in tucson, for instance, and so far as we know at least in this case, there's no mental health background.
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in the end, that might help, but it might not have prevented this. and it might not have prevented what went on in tucson. with that in mind, i wanted to play you something that the former education secretary bill bennett said this morning talking about security around schools. >> i'm not so sure i wouldn't want one person in a school armed, ready for this kind of thing. the principal lunged at this guy. the school psychologist lunged at the guy. has to be someone who's trained, who's responsible, but my god, if you can prevent this kind of thing. >> so, congresswoman, what about that because that's the push from the other side, that they were just completely defenseless inside this school. what would you think about something like that bill bennett is talking about? >> well, to be very honest with you, going back again after the virginia tech legislation was
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put into leave no child behind which basically i authored and that was to prepare the schools -- and by the way the school of connecticut did everything right and they did. they had the lockdown. but people have to understand we cannot save every life. there's no law that could do that. and as far as having more guns, we have more guns in this country than any other civilized nation. it has to be looked at wholistically. we have to look at mental health, we have to look at those signs that led up to the other shootings and now we're seeing that people talking about this particular shooter also had signs. so i mean it's a combination of things that we can do on the social level, we can ask people, certainly children have been trained, especially gh school kids, you know, if you see a classmate that is acting strange
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or teachers seeing someone that might be anti-social, to make sure that young person gets some help. we don't have the answer for every single situation. that should not prevent us for the bigger picture when you look at an awful lot of these killers that were mentally ill, the signs were there, but unfortunately nobody picked up for them.
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you are looking at some live pictures of downtown, if there is such a thing in a town such as this, newtown, connecticut. balloons, teddy bears, notes that would break your heart. flowers, anything you can imagine that people could bring. mixed in with christmas decorations. there is this dissonance here with this season of joy and these horrific mass killings of 20 children, adults, inside that school. it makes the mix, just heartbreaking. this has gone on since the day, really, of those killings, to get into newtown at this point, is quite a feat. we have had some guests coming to this edition of "state of the union" that got out and walked because the traffic coming into this town, people wanting to do
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anything, bring something to say to the people of this flattened town, we care, we know you're suffering. of course tonight the president is going to be here and kind of speak for the nation of the grief that so many people feel that are not directly connected to this tragedy. and the investigation, it goes on as far as we know and as far as we were told just an hour ago, in fact, they are still in the school, they are still at various sites in this investigation. i spoke with connecticut's governor earlier this morning. >> governor, thank you for joining us here. let me just first ask you about the state of the investigation. what do we now know and where are we in the investigation? >> you know, first and foremost, that's a state police is handling that investigation. i think we know everything that is most important.
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there was a single shooter and that shooter is dead. he was troubled individual and he went to the school with a number of weapons, which he used on his victims and ultimately used on himself. you know, some of this other stuff will play out over a period of time. i'm sure we'll come to know more about him, his problems, and his family. you know, these things move on. this investigation will tell us those things, but, you know, i don't have a whole lot more than that. >> so tell me, let me go back to a couple things you just said. the first is the weaponry. so far as you know, were these weapons legally obtained by the mother, which we're led to believe they were her weapons? >> the mother purchased them. they have the patina of legal purchases. there's always a question was she purchasing them for herself, which in that case it was legal. if she was purchasing them for another individual, her son, then there's a question about
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that purchase. >> do we know anything that indicates that? >> the other thing is this assault weapon. connecticut has a pretty aggressive law probably of the 50 states, we're ranked fourth most aggressive in trying to limit access to these kinds of weapons. what happens in the absence of a brady bill, in the absence of federal legislation, people use descriptive terms to try to get around the limitations that are built into our statutes here in connecticut or might otherwise not happen if we had federal legislation on this issue. these are assault weapons. you don't hunt deer with these things. i think that's the question that a lot of people are going to have to resolve their own minds. where should this line get drawn? >> so as i understand what you're saying, there was a semi assault weapon but not necessarily one banned by connecticut, which has a state law banning certain kinds of assault weapons?
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>> well, but that then begs the question, was this a weapon that should have been banned and because of how the manufacturer decided to describe it got around that law? >> so let me go back to a couple things that you said. the first is, is there anything that leads you to believe she might have purchased them for her son, or is that just here are the possibilities? >> here are the possibilities. they're living together. they're in the home. he ends up with the guns, so there may be an explanation. >> they're looking into that. the other issue described his as troubled, which we know from what he did. is there other evidence as they've gone in about troubled how? >> you know, clearly, he was troubled. you have to be deranged to carry out this kind of crime. you know, i'm not in a position that i should be talking about about someone else's family. that information will come out in due course, but this was clearly a troubled person.
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>> is there evidence that he was mentally disabled in some way? >> there's evidence that he was mentally disabled by the acts that he committed. one doesn't shoot their mother -- >> sure. but nothing behind that you're finding in the investigation thus far? >> there are -- as has been attested to already by family members and others in the newspapers, this was a troubled individual. >> okay. as far as the guns are concerned, do they come out of the home? is that where they -- were they secured in the home? >> yes, that's our belief. >> let me move you on to your role now. there always comes this point where the investigation is ongoing. this incredible grief these families must be and are suffering is going on. what do you do now? >> you know, candy, i was with the vast majority of the families friday morning, and ultimately i had to break it to all of the folks who were assembled at the firehouse that
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their children or loved one in the case of the adults were not coming home. and that's an exercise that i will live with for the rest of my life. it's not something you're prepared for, and you go on. but, you know, listen, i'm the governor of the state of connecticut. we have a job to do. we have to protect people and help people recover and move on and get children back to school as quickly as possible in the broader system and hopefully these children at this school back to school -- a school as quickly as possible. >> to make sure i understood you correctly. you're the one that initially had to tell the families gathered in that room what many feared or since some of them might have already known at a gut level, you were the one that finalized it for them? >> yes. >> tell me about that moment. >> it's a very difficult thing to do. these parents had been gathered for a number of hours clinging to hope. news reports were swirling around them outside the
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building. someone had to decide how to handle that situation. ultimately it fell upon me to do that. you know, you can never be prepared for that, to tell 18 or 20 folks or actually families that their loved one would not be returning to them that day or in the future it is a tough assignment. >> governor, i want to thank you for your time this morning. >> thank you. >> up next, reaching out from the oval office to help a nation mourn. they've been committed to putting clients first. helping generations through tough times. good times. never taking a bailout. there when you need them. helping millions of americans over the centuries. the strength of a global financial leader. the heart of a one-to-one relationship. together for your future. ♪
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this evening the president will be in newtown to meet privately with families of the victims and speak at a public interfaith vigil. the need for a president to put words to a collective grief is a familiar part of the rhythm of tragedies that tear open the soul of this nation. >> "challenger" now heading downrange. >> the crew of the space shuttle "challenger" honored for the manner in which they lived their lives, we will never forget them nor the last time we saw them this morning, as they prepared for their journey and waved
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good-bye. >> when there is talk of hatred, let us stand up and talk against it. when there is talk of violence, let us stand up and talk against it. in the face of death, let us honor life. you got to help us here. take care of yourselves and your families first. take care of the school next. but remember you can help america heal and in so doing you will speed the process of healing for yourselves. >> the pictures of airplanes flying into buildings, fires burning, huge structures collapsing, have filled us with di